that obama won. he won the election get over it, get your pants on and get back on the field and start fighting. but there is an ebb and flow, why? why do we go through progressive and conservative to bail them out? why the ebb and flow and we don't stick with it. >> we don't remember the last truly bad times the '70s or early '80s, the interest rates went so high, our parents couldn't buy houses or buy bigger houses or pay for the house they had. this is a forgotten past to us, everything has been sort of good since the '80s when most of us became adults or later, right and some has to do with memory. if you remember how bad inflation was, then you are afraid of it, but many adults don't remember that. >> sean: well, as sort of like with this ebb and flow, does obama then create the new coolidge? >> yes, well, what happened was we have a lot of economic trouble and then suddenly a president cares about budgets, which is what coolidge is/was, gets interesting, doesn't he? >> very much so, didn't get interesting soon enough. >> not this time. >> sean: amity, good to see you, thank you.